the lively show: facing fears & slowing down with joy wilson (joy the baker)


Today’s episode has been a long time coming.

It started last fall, when The Lively Show was just an idea waiting to happen. On a tiny white leather couch at a New York City event, Joy Wilson (aka Joy the Baker) helped me understand the world of podcasting.

And she promised to be on the show.

Today, in episode #20, she did just that.

Joy is well known baker, cookbook author, blogger, and podcaster.

But she also happens to be a most joyful and charming person.

Today we’re chatting about her long – and often hilarious – journey to baking and blogging, how she faces fears, and why moving to New Orleans has helped increase her peacefulness.

This is a laugh-filled episode that is literally a “Joy” to listen to!







  • How Joy became a baker (hint: it involves the US Postal Service, Ben & Jerry’s, a mall, the Cheesecake Factory, and English literature).
  • Why Joy chose not to go to college directly after graduating from high school.
  • Why Joy dropped her expenses by 50% to go full-time with her blog.
  • Why Joy recently relocated to New Orleans.
  • Joy’s empowering approach to fear.
  • How Joy is adjusting to the slower pace of New Orleans compared to Los Angeles.
  • Joy’s recommendations for those contemplating a big move.
  • Joy answers listener questions about motivation, growing a blog, her summer reading list.
  • Joy’s biggest doubts concerning her upcoming third cookbook.
  • Joy’s recommendations for those just starting out on this journey.




Joy the Baker Cookbook

Joy’s upcoming cookbook, Homemade Decadence

The Joy the Baker Podcast

The Pioneer Woman + Joy

The Good Luck of Right Now

Everything Is Perfect When You’re a Liar

To Rise Again at a Decent Hour

Minimalist Baker

Social Triggers

Grace Bonney’s (Design*Sponge) Lively Show episode

Dana’s (Minimalist Baker) Lively Show episode





Want more? Check out past Lively Show episodes here.


PS – Have you listened to all 20 Lively Show episodes? If so, please let me know — I would love to personally thank you!


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  1. Ooh, I can’t wait for this one! I’ve listened to all of the podcast episodes so far and have recommended it to friends- it’s a lovely bright spot on the long highway commute. 🙂

  2. Alex

    First time I’ve listened to your podcast — enjoyed the interview with Joy! Thanks for sharing.

  3. Thanks so much for this podcast! I am a huge fan of Joy’s and thoroughly enjoyed this interview. I am looking forward to going back and listening to the other 19 episodes! 🙂

  4. LeanneHersh

    Can’t get enough of these stories!

  5. Tiffany

    These podcasts are AMAZING. Totally changing my outlook and inspiring me to work hard towards getting out of my boring desk job and into something I LOVE. Thank you!!

    1. That’s great to hear, Tiffany! Best wishes, and remember to serve in the present moment at every point along the way. : )

  6. KrisitnT

    Cant wait to start listening to her podcast! I’ve been looking for other good ones — also any suggestions on other great podcasts would be awesome 🙂

    1. Cool! I listen to Smart Passive Income and Ask Pat (both biz) along with After the Jump (Grace Bonney) and Joy The Baker. : ) The With Purpose podcast is good, too!

  7. Caitlin

    I loved this! I listen to her homefries show and read her blog, so it was nice to hear her talk like “joy wilson” not “joy the baker”. Great interview!

  8. Rebecca Magee

    Hi Jess! I am loving your podcasts, and this one really spoke to me,
    specifically your own struggle on location and Joy’s decision to move. I
    was living in New Orleans (where I’m from) and found real happiness
    being back in a place that was slower – comparing that to NYC where I
    have lived before and after that year, I enjoyed the space that a slower
    city gives. As an example, I strangely lost a lot of weight without
    even trying when I lived in New Orleans, because my anxiety levels
    dropped so much. The other side to that is that I’ve struggled for the
    last year with the anxiety of being back in NYC (even though I’m here
    for a great reason).

    Coming out of that experience, I feel some clarity that as a really
    self-disciplined and self-motivated person, I just don’t need the fast
    pace to keep me going – I do that naturally and on my own, and I do better in a place where I don’t feel the unrealistic pressure to keep up.

    But it sounds like my struggle now – of having to be back in a big city but
    craving a quieter place (and almost needing it for my sanity) – is
    similar to your own desire to move to Austin. So what do you do if you
    have to be some place (in my case, b/c I have my dream job here) that
    isn’t the right match? How do you “get through it”? Maybe not something you would have an answer to but I just wonder if others are feeling this way too.

    1. Thank you so much for sharing your experience with me, Rebecca! I really appreciate it.

      I can totally relate, as you know, to what you mean about wanting a quieter place. I’m not sure if you saw, but earlier last week on Tuesday I shared my own struggle, and eventual conclusions that I came to about what I’d do if we had to stay in Chicago: If you haven’t read it, I think you might really enjoy it.

      Overall, I’d consider what your Values are, and in this case it might be quiet, and calm. Perhaps you can find a way to embody those Values in New York, the best way that you can. Maybe that’s living on a higher floor that is quieter, trying wax ear plugs (I just tried them and find them way better for canceling noise like trash collectors and sirens while sleeping than home ones), picking a place on a quieter street or neighborhood. Or maybe even commuting if it’s a big Value that outweighs a drive into the city?

      I hear you. It’s not easy to stay in a place that you’d rather not be in. But maybe the Value and Intention setting will help shed some light on how you can make the best out of your living quarters as long as you’re at your dream job. : )


  9. Emily Wignall

    I’ve been listening to your podcasts from the beginning…they are just getting better and better! They are so inspiring to me as I start out with my tiny blog. Loved the push at the end to spend as much time promoting content as creating content…I totally needed to hear that!

    1. That is so great to hear, Emily! I’m glad you like the show and even think that it’s continuing to grow and improve. : )

      And I’m glad you liked the part about promoting. Check out for more information on that sort of thing!

  10. Meg

    Loved the podcast – thanks for sharing your wisdom and humour Joy and Jess!

  11. Emily C

    I loved listening to you two! I am new to this podcast but found it through Joy, and am glad to have listened. I’m ready to dive in to the archives and learn from some more smart people.

    I’ve been reading the Luminaries all summer (I started it in December before my baby was born, oof) and have to say, reading such a big book in the summertime has been great. Summer kind of lets you get down in to a good long book like that in a way that I don’t find in the other seasons. Three cheers to slowing things down in the summertime.

  12. TheGaiaGoodnessCo.

    Hi Jess, My name is Shara. I’m a new subscriber. I follow Joy Wilson’s blog and podcast. I just loved this podcast interview. I’m a food blogger
    and a specialty food producer who is working on expanding my business by
    doing my own podcast focusing on foodies in the business like Joy
    Wilson and yourself. Your site was recommended to me by my career coach
    and now I’m hooked! You have a terrific site and podcast. This
    interview was very insightful and inspiring. I’d love to have both you
    and Joy on my show one day if you are open to it. There are tons of
    folks out here like myself, who value and are seeking your expertise in
    the food media business. Keep it going, and I hope to collaborate one day 🙂

    1. Welcome, Shara! I am so glad you found the show and this episode! Since I am not a food blogger/podcaster at all (I don’t even like to cook!), I don’t think I’m the one to share on your show. But that said, you may like listening to the other podcasts I’ve done with foodies like Minimalist Baker and Pinch of Yum (you can find them on : )

      1. TheGaiaGoodnessCo.

        Ah, ok. I assumed you were in the foodie biz. My mistake. I will certainly check out the other shows as I also follow the Minimalist Baker. Your podcast and blog are fab non the less. Thank you so much for the quick response!

        1. No worries! I think you’ll like the non-foodie guests, too! Check them out, they all either: uplift, inspire, or add a little extra intention to your everyday. : )

  13. Sara

    Great podcast! Lots of great questions, it was great and encouraging to hear Joy’s story and journey. Thank you for all your great podcasts!

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